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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Apr 21, 2011 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Did Trey steal this jam....

Dark Star > Morning Dew from 9.21.72 a couple of mins before the beginning of Morning Dew it sounds like Treys song Alive Again....

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Poster: debris_slide Date: Apr 21, 2011 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

trust me...I'm no phish fan...in fact I find phish to be pretty obnoxious to my ears...but it's important to remember that there are only so many notes on a guitar...themes, chord progressions etc get repeated and rearranged all the time...and people rip each other off all the time.

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Poster: WillCo Date: Apr 22, 2011 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

"Obnoxious"?
Okay, the lyrics are usually gibbledyblook, and the singing is never too good, but some of the tunes are pretty good.

They get top marks from me for some of their groovy instrumental passages. In support of which assertion, milud, I call my first witness to the stand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaCsBnxX3mQ&;NR=1

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Poster: tazaroo Date: Apr 22, 2011 4:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

Phish to me always sounded like a really bad attempt at covering Frank Zappa. That being said..........Trey is a great guitarist.

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Apr 22, 2011 11:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

I hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but I"ve simply never "Gotten" Phish. Age? Timing? I don't know... whatever it is, I do appreciate the musicianship. For me, it's always seemed like a wanna be band. Great musicians who are truly artists in their own right, but, the songwriting never did much for me, and the jams seemed more aimless than I can really swallow.

That being said, the shows that meant the most to me were always the cover shows, like Quadrophenia, and Dark Side of the Moon. These showed that they could show due respect, and artistry.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Apr 23, 2011 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

Maybe another way to look at it is you DID get it and because there is NOTHING to get you thought you didnt get it!!

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Poster: utopian Date: Apr 22, 2011 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

i would agree

more structure = less space for jamming

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 22, 2011 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

The worst thing that ever happened to Phish is they were labeled a Jam Band. Jam Band, to me, evokes the idea of improvisation. Phish never did a ton of improvised playing.

Phish would be better labeled an Arrangement Band. They create highly technical arrangements and the challenge is to play these arrangements in the live setting. A far-cry from what the GD did with open-ended tunes which were specifically designed to allow the musicians to explore.

High-Hurdles vs. Without A Net(When that album was released my buddy asked, "Who is Annette?")

I think GD fans have a difficulty connecting with Phish due in large part to this misconception.

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Poster: wineland Date: Apr 21, 2011 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Did Trey steal this jam....

Similar theme. Also sounds very Allman Brotherish. Take a listen here.

http://stash.nugs.net/attics/frames.asp?page=/vault/show.asp&;artist=1&show=75&cmd=shows